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« on: February 10, 2002, 03:28:38 pm »

Hey all!  I am just starting a business plan to start up a new bead supply and lampwork bead business in my hometown.  Any suggestions and ideas are appreciated!  
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2002, 04:09:52 pm »

Preparing to 'take my show one the road', I am shopping for suppliers of display material, specifically locked earring displays and earring cards, effective and attractive earring display tips.  Many thanks!
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2002, 01:26:57 pm »

Welcome to our new Business Questions forum!

I'm your moderator, Dave Robertson.

In this forum, you can ask or help answer questions about running a crafts business.

For example, you might want to know more about getting a tax ID number...you may have good advice about pricing...or there may be good questions about how to get a business started.

I'll do my best to help get all these questions answered, and pass along any good tips I can think of.

Jump right in!  Post a message here to introduce yourself, and we'll get the discussion rolling.

Pleased to meet you.

Dave                                   :icon_18:

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2002, 09:56:42 am »

Hi, kendalkid & everyone else,

Let me pass along some correspondence between one of our customers & my boss, Polly.  It's quoted with permission.  This is a bit long, but I think it's very useful!  --  Dave

[Esther asked us:]
>Hi, I really like your site...very comprehensive and really like the work you've gone into to get your shopping cart done....I know how much work that can be.
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>The reason for this note is that I would like to get some information from you, if you would be so kind.  I am thinking about "opening" an online store myself and was thinking about specializing in delicas first with just a few other things, like needles, or other specific to beading hobby items....Then expanding the store as I had more money.
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>As you might realize, with limited funds, and being a single mom, this decision is a difficult one for me to make.  I know I want to do it, but in order for it to become relatively successful, how wide a variety of items should I start with? Are there items that are "staples of the industry" that I can be assured of making a fairly steady income with that I should carry, however small?  How important do you feel a printed catalog is?  Should I just start on an auction site like Ebay first and see where it goes from there?
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>Needless to say, I have a hundred questions related to this.  I have experience in making jewelry with delicas and many other beads.  I have someone to do the website.  I am very familiar with Ebay and other auction sites and how the web works.  I am just at the decision making part and, having so many avenues to go just in the beading category, I wouldn't be able to carry every single item or even every category due to limited funds.
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>Which brings us to a couple of questions about your site.  Do you drop ship and if not, do you know of a company that would drop ship that would still retain their wholesale price for drop shipping?
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>Any help that you can give me would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance and I will (and do) refer your site to others.  Thanks again.
>Esther Hayden

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Esther,

Personally, I would recommend the Ebay / auction method as a lower cost test.

I would be hesitant to recommend starting a bead business.  There seem to be a plethora of sites selling beads on the web.  Some of them specialize in Czech beads, or Seed beads, or just one manufacturer of seed beads, and others have them all.  If you do a few web searches looking for "Glass Beads" (wholesale or not), or even as specific as "Delica seed beads", there are 1,000's of pages returned, and at least the first 30 are usually valid results.

However, if you had a really good site, with good information, and good coding, you could do it, and wouldn't even need to start with a very wide variety of supplies.

Since you have a background in making Delica jewelry, you could probably do the following:

- Provide hints, projects and how-to's on your web site.
 - Answer people's "How do I..." questions (via e-mail,
     or to have better visibility and a "community", via a
     Bulletin Board of some kind).

With Projects, it is important to create projects only if you can break the steps down into very simple steps.  I recommend testing any projects on a 12-year-old relative or neighbor. (and seeing if they can do it without help. Rewrite, and re-illustrate until they can!).

Make sure that for any project you suggest, you have all the parts for (such as needles, cording, et cetera).
Have links to sites with anything you don't actually carry.  (Our links page has a retail link to some uncommon but useful beading blanks, such as pens and I forget what else.)

I believe that you can also use sites like Ebay to bring some traffic to your site, BUT you can't sell the exact same items on your site.  However, you could use it to test the waters with a potential *new* product, I think (that you were considering adding).  It can be difficult to bring traffic to your web site.  It will take at least 3 months before you show up well in the search engines, and that is if you do everything right:

    1. CONTENT (This is the hints and info, not your
     stock).
     It helps to have the words that people are
     searching for (via search engines), and builds
     your "brand" which I am starting to think of as a
     combination of your company's personality, service,
     and quality. It helps people find you, and brings
     people back to *you* rather than your competition.

    On your pages... beady people - especially retail
     ones - need to see color.  But, make sure that you
     don't substitute pix for words - use both!  Search
     engines don't report how beautiful your images are -
     they report the words on the page.

    2. CODING & ORGANIZATION
     A badly-coded / organized web site can
          1. frustrate visitors due to
               a. slow pages,
               b. inability to find what they are looking for
               (three-click rule),
               c. scripting errors / looking bad in different    
               browsers, etc.
    
     and
    
          2. make search engines not be able to find /    
          report your site!
          
          You need to use meta tags with key words ...
          but not rely on them.  All your key words need to
          be on your page in real English, but also in the
          meta tag key words lists.

         Ask your .html person about some of this.  Have
          them explain more about the coding &
          organization to you.  If they can't, then ask me
          for some tips.  I think I have some links /
          bookmarks to good sites that tell you what
          should / shouldn't be coded into your site and
          why.

    3. SEARCH ENGINE SUBMISSION
     Submit 1 - 10 best pages of your web site to at least
     6 Search Engines once a month for the first 3
     months.  After that, at least a few times a year
     (unless you get too busy with orders ... then you
     don't need to worry about building traffic).

    4. OTHER LISTINGS
     Search the web for Crafts web sites that list
     suppliers.  Get listed!  (For the first year of your
     business, while you're learning the ropes, don't do
     anything you have to pay for.  Banner ads are rarely
     worth their expense, for a targeted business like
     beading.  Don't waste your scant money on them.)
     Pre-write a 20 word, 25 word, 50 word, and 100    
     word description of your business / site so you can
     easily paste them into the listing submission forms.
     Also make yourself a list of key words so you don't
     forget the important ones.  Continually revise all of
     your templates (those pre-written things) constantly
     until you love them, or as you add new items.

    5. And now I'll finally mention STOCK!
     Drop shipping ... we don't do it, and no businesses
     like us (that I'm aware of) do it.  Drop-shipping is
     normally for large expensive, and/or one-of-a-kind
     handcrafted items, direct from the mfg or hand-
     crafter.   Great idea for a person not wanting to carry
     a lot of stock in their house, but ... not usually used
     for the goods you want it for.

    I don't think you need a deep variety to start with.
     But only do this if you can provide good prices.
     There is too much competition to do this with bad
     prices.  Your advantage is: virtually no overhead (no
     separate warehouse, only 1 or 2 employees, et
     cetera).

    Your disadvantage is: limited budget for the large  
     quantities needed for best discounts.

    Start with all the basic colors, and a handful of your  
     favorite fancy colors, and the basic accessories.
     Know where you can get the rest, and offer to
     special order.

    One advantage to the slow build-up of traffic, as the  
     search engines find you, is that you can have fairly
     shallow stock at first (such as vial'd-up kilos or half-
     kilos of each color), and after you process those first
     few orders, you can order more / deeper.

If you decide to take the plunge....Take a look at Veoweb.net's web site.  They have some very affordable mini and basic web sites, and you can always upgrade to their next one when you need more space / have more traffic.  They come with a bitsy 20 item or 40 item shopping cart, which I'm sure you can upgrade, too. They don't have staff 24 hours per day, but everyone who works there is helpful and knows what they are talking about!  Avoid Verio!  I loved my old local ISP & host, but then Verio bought them and ..... The less said, the better.

--Polly

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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2002, 10:36:57 am »

Even though we sell several basic earring display cards I'm going to suggest you make some personalized cards. The one-of-a-kind nature of hand crafted jewelry is better served with unique earring cards. You (or a friend or commercial designer) should create a style of card that is your own.  A local print shop can print them and even die cut a special shape. IMHO, our display cards are too generic for most higher priced craft goods. Since you want locking displays, I suspect your work is higher priced.)

If you want to hang them from clip card earring racks you can use the stick on clip card back. (Our #63-146 on page 359.) This is also helpful if you sell to stores that want to hang them on a clip card rack.

Rings & Things has some basic earring displays on page 358 of our catalog.
These are not locking and, again, they may not be suitable for higher priced goods. The rotating racks are great for ŭ to ฤ fused glass posts or smaller beaded earrings - where you have a lot of similar styles at similar prices.

At a craft show I'd like to suggest that you keep your higher priced goods inside a display case or counter but not in a locking stand-up display.  The locking sand up displays are great for stores where staff is not nearby. At a craft show you should be right there to pull an item out so your customer can get the "hands on" feel while you tell them the unique features or how you make them.

Our competitor, Rio Grande Jeweler's Supply in Albuquerque, has wood display cases you might consider or you might find a  local woodworker to build some to fit your specific needs. Maybe you can trade your jewelry for new cases.

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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2004, 01:03:56 pm »

Hello David

  I have always had a real passion for all things that are earthy and have natural beauty...stones and crystals...and the art objects and jewelry made from them...
  Recently I decided that I would put that passion to good use...design and make jewelry. I have made some very nice things that are different from most I've seen...I'm proud of them...
  My question is...How do I find a media to get it out there..? I don't have the means to open a store or make a fancy web site...what would you suggest?

    Thanks
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2004, 10:36:32 am »

One of the simplest ways to start selling your work is with a home party or hostess party.  It works just like a Tupperware party, except your jewelry will "burp" instead of the Tupperware.  (Just kidding...)

Invite a few friends and acquantances who may already be fans of your work.  Offer them an incentive to bring additional people--maybe a discount off their order.  They can come to your home, or you can ask someone to host it (again, offering them either a thank-you gift or a sales incentive.)  

This gives people the opportunity to see your work in a nice environment with none of the expense of doing a show, advertising, a website, etc.  It will give you valuable feedback into how people see your work and how much they will pay for it.  It gives you some experience talking to people about your work and how to sell.  (Also, check out Bruce Baker's invaluable CD on selling your work at www.dbakerinc.com) And it will give you some money in your pocket so you can fund your next step.

You can expand this idea to the workplace; some companies even offer special lunchtime "shows" for their employees.  Offer to come and set up in their cafeteria or in their reception area for 2-3 hours and display your work.

If you like selling, you can explore the local and regional crafts shows in your area.  There are usually plenty of little shows around with table fees ranging anywhere from $10 to $200.  

Not everyone can end up supporting their entire business with local sales, but the experience is still a great starter for a new business, whether you decide to eventually do bigger shows, open an actual storefront, or develop an on-line presence.
hope this helps,
Luann
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